Is JOW 928 the bus that is now under restoration by the Southampton group?
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It is of the 3D2RA variety and the body was built by Neepsend, to the H70R formation.
It was decorated in the early 1980s as being the Transport Department’s last rear entry bus, but then came Deregulation and it was returned to service.
Bill Lewis managed to modernise the livery on the Atlanteans to something like the Manchester style, and I’m not sure why he didn’t deal with the older vehicles as well. Bill had other difficulties with his Committee – they were adamant that they would not follow the trend to overall adverts – the best he could achieve for many years was the ‘wrap around’ style and, although other Councils, including our neighbours Bournemouth and Portsmouth had coaches or dual purpose vehicles for private hire work, Bill was not allowed to have them.
I have a strong suspicion that the presence of a local coach proprietor on the Committee had more than some influence there! Arab III/Park Royal might look a bit old fashioned, but elegant at the same time, especially in the standard livery.
An exception were Reading’s East Lancs bodied Lolines which had the traditional side indicators fitted on the very front of the between decks panels.
The comments about the type and positioning of the front indicators reminds me that Eastbourne Corporation’s two batches of PD2’s had different types, the 1966 batch No’s 71-80 BJK 671-680D had two a teardrop shaped fitted at lower deck window level behind the cab door and a round flat lense mounted on a shaped housing low on the front wing, the latter looking something of an afterthought.
The actual closure was delayed by about three months because the new depot at Empress Road wasn’t ready. By then rubber window mounts and ‘new-look’ fronts were well established.
Perhaps Southampton valued standardisation more than up to the minute styling as these were the last of a very large batch of early post-war Guys. The next batch to arrive was the PD2 with Midland Red front, then the PD2A and Regent V before the Atlantean.
Who came up with the idea of those front indicators above the mirror line.
I can see the logic of not reflecting in the mirrors, but those particular light units were the same as Duple fitted on later model Super Vegas (I think) – one on the side & one on the lower front corner.
Whether any UFs actually had the five speeder is another matter of which I am uncertain, but a few did have the preselective box.